tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post7289045388425893673..comments2024-03-11T05:03:14.020-07:00Comments on Ernie's Place: More American System of Justice, Casey AnthonyErnie Branscombhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06391160783604462511noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-20763895716811649362011-08-02T12:10:13.204-07:002011-08-02T12:10:13.204-07:00Well Well, the judge has called casey back to Orla...Well Well, the judge has called casey back to Orlando to serve out her probation in the county of the trial. This is where every one hates her. Maybe the Raven will see justice served!charlie two crowqsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-34295670729178628732011-07-09T04:06:56.986-07:002011-07-09T04:06:56.986-07:00There's a tree where the little girl was found...There's a tree where the little girl was found. People have made a memorial there with gifts. The day of the verdict LIGHTING struck the tree and split the top. Ernie here's your karma working. Seems someone or something doesn't believe Justice has been served!Two Crowsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-65049412955657823382011-07-07T09:37:38.279-07:002011-07-07T09:37:38.279-07:00Casey will be free in 6 days now maybe we can move...Casey will be free in 6 days now maybe we can move on to the next travesty in our land. The last space shuttle launch is supposed to be tomorrow and after it lands NASA can get away from space exploration and get down to the important task of promoting Muslim accomplishments.<br /><br />OregonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-24170304050398624142011-07-07T09:35:11.030-07:002011-07-07T09:35:11.030-07:00Sorry, I got sidetracked with all the comments. He...Sorry, I got sidetracked with all the comments. Here's Robins link to the jury instructions: <br /><br /><a href="http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/Casey-Anthony-Jury-Instructions-0704.pdf" rel="nofollow">Jury instructions</a><br /><br /><br />eErnie Branscombhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06391160783604462511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-89623023911824106342011-07-07T09:05:33.737-07:002011-07-07T09:05:33.737-07:00Robin wrote, "You will see what the jury'...Robin wrote, <i>"You will see what the jury's choices were. Why they didn't use those choices is beyond me.</i>"<br /><br />Thanks for the link. Since it's a pdf file I couldn't copy and paste the pertinent sections of it but I believe there was easily enough evidence to convict on Aggrevated Manslaughter of A Child.<br /><br />Of the elements of that crime. #1, we know that Caylee Anthony is dead. <br /><br />Another element is willfully depriving the child of, among other things, supervision.<br /><br />She was last seen alive in Casey's custody and evidence is clear that Caylee died either in Casey's custody, or lack thereof. The fact that Casey continually lied about the location of Caylee adds to that element. <br /><br />There should have been no reason they couldn't have come up with a conviction for Aggravated Manslaughter, imo.<br /><br />I can only guess that someone on the jury- perhaps the jury foreman?- felt they couldn't convict without more physical evidence than was available. The latest news reports seem to confirm something along that line as at least one juror has said they didn't think Casey was innocent. They just didn't think there was sufficient proof of what might have happened.Fred Mangelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15746646487480850444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-48955601344335143362011-07-06T20:39:11.496-07:002011-07-06T20:39:11.496-07:00Ernie, the juror's aren't feeling that bad...Ernie, the juror's aren't feeling that bad about their verdict! CNN just. Announced the juror's each want 5 figures to do interviews. How sick is that?TWO CROWSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-76515005632874702252011-07-06T20:21:31.109-07:002011-07-06T20:21:31.109-07:00They could have proven that the body had been move...They could have proven that the body had been moved if they had taken the skull apart. The decomposed brain settles at the bottom of the center of gravity. Why didn't they take the skull apart? It would have proven that the skull had been moved if the sediment was anywhere else.<br /><br />Skull dissection is med examiner 101. It was gross incompetence to not examine the skull. If the med exam was that incompetent, what else did they screw up?<br /><br />I’m sure that the whole jury hates themselves for not being able to vindicate little kaylee. I’m also sure that they had questions on their mind that they wanted to scream out. It’s tough being a juror. And I feel that they had no choice but to come to the decision that they did.Ernie Branscombhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06391160783604462511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-81071850391728660062011-07-06T19:45:28.879-07:002011-07-06T19:45:28.879-07:00In this case Water Boarding,would have brought out...In this case Water Boarding,would have brought out the Truth. And given casey an idea what it was like for caylee to die in the pool. Mr Chaney has spoken time and time again that Water Boarding is the best tool to get the truth. Now everyone will say torture is ILLegal. Well so is MURDER!!!TWO CROWSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-16831549581065333512011-07-06T19:22:00.185-07:002011-07-06T19:22:00.185-07:00What cooked it for me is the 3 strips of duct tape...What cooked it for me is the 3 strips of duct tape around Caylee's mouth and nose. Then Caylee was last seen with her mother and she never reported Caylee missing while going to parties.<br />Next time I hear of someone breaking their neck after getting bucked off a horse or run over with a logging truck and find out when the first responders arrived the deceased has duct tape wrapped around their face I will concede the Anthony case as a drowning.<br /><br />OregonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-75368312322375012292011-07-06T19:03:56.764-07:002011-07-06T19:03:56.764-07:00Do I think they proved it? ...no..
I'm not su...<i>Do I think they proved it? ...no.</i>.<br /><br />I'm not sure they could have proved it from the physical evidence alone.Fred Mangelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15746646487480850444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-49791750316580032082011-07-06T18:31:08.201-07:002011-07-06T18:31:08.201-07:00This stuff happens almost any day in the U.SA....I...This stuff happens almost any day in the U.SA....It seems that the threshold for becoming a media event is the victim must be attractive and white. As a nam vet I find this a bit amusing. A whole lot of folks died for the crime of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Do I think Casey had a hand in Caylee's death?.....yes. <br />Do I think they proved it? ...no.Dave Kirbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-78743132221556527622011-07-06T18:23:40.379-07:002011-07-06T18:23:40.379-07:00Dave Kirby has made the only comment on the crazed...Dave Kirby has made the only comment on the crazed media circus which accompanied this tragic case. <br />Follow the money. Nancy Grace has made huge profits for her employers and stockholders. If Casey had been ugly or of a different race, this horrible business would have been back page news. We are suckers for the hucksters who flock to the sensational. The media will run this into the ground. They will never stop until public interest is exhausted.Bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-53260699775366588832011-07-06T17:32:27.246-07:002011-07-06T17:32:27.246-07:00I've basically come to the conclusion the Stat...I've basically come to the conclusion the State didn't do it's job by over-reaching on the charge of First Degree Murder...involuntary manslaughter might have had a chance. Too late now. <br /> <br />I'm one of the few locals bloggers to comment on this trial along with you Ernie, and if you read my post you'll see I come to this conclusion reluctently.<br /><br />No matter what, justice wasn't there for Caylee.<br /><br /> Her death is now doomed to be swept away into the debris of history.<br /><br />Another unsolved crime story for the TV.ImBlogCrazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06114155503257613636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-77226367329446179132011-07-06T17:22:31.725-07:002011-07-06T17:22:31.725-07:00Fred,
The judge's instructions to the jury ar...Fred, <br />The judge's instructions to the jury are here: <br />http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/Casey-Anthony-Jury-Instructions-0704.pdf<br />Perhaps Ernie can activate the link for me. <br />You will see what the jury's choices were. Why they didn't use those choices is beyond me.Robin Shelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15282504761189889311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-63261453261417780432011-07-06T16:39:31.824-07:002011-07-06T16:39:31.824-07:00Again, I agree with Fred (4:35)...
The circumstan...Again, I agree with Fred (4:35)...<br /><br />The circumstantial evidence is something you can hit with a hammer. <br /><br />OregonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-13727088197936406872011-07-06T16:35:13.867-07:002011-07-06T16:35:13.867-07:00Now, having read that, I still think they were wro...Now, having read that, I still think they were wrong. We've already kind of been through this here but I think circumstantial evidence made it clear Casey was involved in the death of her daughter. Whether it was intentional murder with malice aforethought, manslaughter as a result of the heat of passion or simply an accident, she was involved.<br /><br />Lying about it, as far as I'm concerned, amplified her involvement. At the very least they could have given her the benefit of the doubt that it was an accident and convict for some form of manslaughter. <br /><br />Not sure if the court would allow that but it sounded to me like they could have considered Murder 2 had felt like it. I think Involuntary Manslaughter would have covered most the bases and been fair to all involved.Fred Mangelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15746646487480850444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-81275650372778563502011-07-06T16:26:55.283-07:002011-07-06T16:26:55.283-07:00This just in from CNN:
Juror Jennifer Ford told A...This just in from CNN:<br /><br /><i>Juror Jennifer Ford told ABC News that she and the other jurors cried and were "sick to our stomachs" after voting to acquit Anthony.</i><br /><br /><i>"I did not say she was innocent," said Ford, who had previously only been identified as juror number 3. "I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, you cannot determine what the punishment should be."</i>Fred Mangelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15746646487480850444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-67711749422024291642011-07-06T16:19:11.704-07:002011-07-06T16:19:11.704-07:00TrueTrueFred Mangelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15746646487480850444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-46891998991508081082011-07-06T16:01:40.629-07:002011-07-06T16:01:40.629-07:00Fred,
Casey admitted to lying to the officers so ...Fred, <br />Casey admitted to lying to the officers so the jury didn't have much choice in that verdict, I guess.Robin Shelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15282504761189889311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-74785321078714205972011-07-06T15:59:16.034-07:002011-07-06T15:59:16.034-07:00intuitively i think that when someone who is guilt...intuitively i think that when someone who is guilty has a trial and goes free. it's sort of like trying to convict the tip of an iceberg. the part that got caught above the surface. while 99 percent of the quilty parties remain undiscovered underwater.spyrockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03685726716755909658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-77643546283585132242011-07-06T15:46:43.463-07:002011-07-06T15:46:43.463-07:00“Will be interesting to hear what they have to say...<i>“Will be interesting to hear what they have to say when this is over.”</i> (Jurors)<br /><br />Robin<br />I'm sure you will hear from them. Surely they all have agents and book deals by now.Ernie Branscombhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06391160783604462511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-11242304274757299532011-07-06T15:38:53.325-07:002011-07-06T15:38:53.325-07:00My point was that the prosecution went so far beyo...My point was that the prosecution went so far beyond what they were even remotely able to prove, that it angered the jurors and that is why they didn't allow the convition on any level. <br /><br />They must have had a theory of who else might have done it, or another logical theory as to what might have really happened.<br /><br />The defense drug a powerfully smelly red herring across the trail when he called Casey Anthony a "liar and a slut", but a good mother. They followed everything that they said after that.Ernie Branscombhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06391160783604462511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-38792570069106192852011-07-06T15:08:08.649-07:002011-07-06T15:08:08.649-07:00on behalf of the peace eagles as they are regarded...on behalf of the peace eagles as they are regarded by native americans. i accept your apology.spyrockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03685726716755909658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-78486665753224889922011-07-06T15:04:52.988-07:002011-07-06T15:04:52.988-07:00I agree with Fred (6:53).
Ernie, I think the pros...I agree with Fred (6:53). <br />Ernie, I think the prosecution did a great job with what they had to work with. Casey was the last to be seen with Caylee and it goes from there....<br />Like someone said " When I got up this morning it was a pretty and clear morning but the road was muddy, water dripping off the roof and the grass was wet so I guessed it had rained but didn't see any clouds".<br />The "without a doubt" thing sometimes is carried past the COMMON since I think.<br />Casey got away with murder.<br /><br />OregonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-924013241079711992.post-30292816305994487762011-07-06T14:58:22.615-07:002011-07-06T14:58:22.615-07:00I would like to apologize to Vultures for smearing...I would like to apologize to Vultures for smearing their name. They are among the most graceful of birds.Dave Kirbynoreply@blogger.com