Monday, January 16, 2017

Let's see if we can still do this!

A longtime dear friend (don't say "old" around and old person) asked me to post this in the Simpson thread. I have been distracted lately and haven't had a lot of time, but if you don't have time for your friends what is life all about? Huh?

So, I decided that I would not only post it below, but start a new thread. With a few minor deletions to protect the  guilty.



From Olmanriver

Hi Ernie, I have had an impossible twenty minutes trying to post on your blog, which wants a different browser than my firefox to get past the robot test. Could you, would you, please post this for me on the Simpson thread? Thanks either way.

Nature has provided me with a lot of future firewood! Not too bad up in the hills other than buckets of rain propelled by high winds, lots of 40-60mph winds, 80 mph makes my picture window bulge, didn't get near there. Need this sunshine to dry out february's fireplace offerings.

Be well, olmanriver


From Olmanriver...
"unknown"-- Ray Schultz in Valleys of Mendocino makes the briefest of mentions of Rock Tree Valley, just to say that it is east of Willits at the foot of what is called Red Grade. The valley is on the road to Hearst, which was, as you mentioned, on the old old road to Covelo.

Hello to all you ol' regulars from the 'good ol' days of blogging'!

Two crows! Great to hear from you... I have been wondering about you for sometime.. I salute you for your strength to struggle and survive.
Some years back you suggested panning under the rock crusher at a Pville quarry for gold. I thought of you recently when I found an 1880's era newspaper article about some of our locals filing claims on a gold ore ledge on Mare Ridge, by Pville. Don't think it played out, but I heard the current quarry owner has a fireplace mantle made of white quartz. Just the stuff that gold, and fool's gold are found in.
Hope your mining luck has been better than theirs! Glad to hear you are still upright sir.

Spy- do stay in touch.

thanks for posting this Ernie...  


My Pleasure River.
I also miss my old friends and I join in wishing Two crows good health. Two Crows and I have many text conversations. He is a wealth of knowledge and advice for me.



33 comments:

Two crows said...

OMR does sohum history show Tea was grown in the 1800's ?

Two crows said...

Ernie, I'm looking for history of Pacific islander visits to mattoleriver valley? Have DNA tests been done on locall tribes? Can anyone help? Peace from the desert.

Ernie Branscomb said...

Two Crows
I've been talking to OMR and he is looking into it. He has all kinds of info That is nor quite suitable for public consumption. Can I give him your text number???

Two crows said...

Yes thanks.

Anonymous said...

With sailors coming up and down the coast there was a good chance of interracial 'intermingling' Two Crows. The only specific mention of a Hawaiian, or Kanaka as they were called back then, in the Mattole is a reference to a Kanaka scout in the Work Party which came up the coast looking for beaver trapping areas in the early 1830's (1832 or 1833). When the large scouting party of fur trappers and Native consorts turned back somewhere near Bear Harbor or Shelter Cove, their Kanaka scout named Kilota (sp?)went on into the Mattole region. j
Blood quantum is very sensitive info for most, you might google up the Bear River tribe HQ and ask them about any Hawaiian bloodlines.
Shelter Cove being the only safe harbor for some distance in either direction it is easy to imagine that there were a number of European and Native encounters unrecorded. I would love to know the backstory of what happened for a partial set of Spanish armor and a dagger ending up in a stump to be found near Bear Harbor in the 1960's!
The Humboldt Historian also mentioned a band of Natives near Oil Creek said to be of lighter complexion than most of the local people... don't have a source... just some oral history. Be well. sorry for the delay and thanks to Ernie for facilitating.

Two crows said...

Anastozi
I grew up with the chum ash they told me the story poly islanders coming to calif. In 70 met a boy at cr had the Blu ratio from Lolita rancho told me same story but around 900ad.


Two crows said...

Blue tattoo on forhead

Two crows said...

6 families of Anasazi lived in ash meadows near here. Trade goods from the chumash and bear harbor were in Anasazi Graves found in 1948.

Two crows said...

OMR read pacific coast pirates and Spanish galleons by DAVE Sanders field 2010

Anonymous said...

Thanks Two Crows.... that forehead tatto on the Mattole Natives sure sounds like a Hindu influence, but that is just speculation. Powers recorded them tattoing like that in the 1870's. omr

Ernie Branscomb said...

When I was a kid, abalone diving in rough seas, I got slammed into a sea urchin. The spines poked holes in my leg that hurt like hell. When they healed up I had purple scars where I was poked. I wonder it the Indians used sea urchin juice for dye?

Two crows said...

The book 1421 talks about chinese coming to humboldt thats why I asked about tea grown in 1800's or Asian tea found growing wild. Yes ernie that's the die used in south pacific.

Two crows said...

Spanish galleons would leave Peru. Sail north to San Blas mx then on to false cape turn left and sail to Manila. Then make the return trip. Sohum to manila is the shortest route.

Unk John said...

Don't know too much about this topic, but many years ago I read a book titled "It began in Babel" which was about ethnology. Somewhere in there I remember seeing something about the possibility of Chinese making it to North America, although I cannot remember when it may have happened. I think he was referring to ancient times. He mentioned old Chinese documents that said Chinese sailors traveled thousands of "li" on the ocean.

I have no clue how far a li is, but the author seemed to believe that at least one interpretation would mean that it was far enough that they could have reached North America.

I guess I would have to say that I don't know doo doo.

However, I must say that I'm just glad that Ernie started writing on his blog again.

Two crows said...

Ernie: tell me about the mosier underground gold mine alderpoint 1940

Two crows said...

Have to be careful when we talk about gold. No gps just history. People go crazy if they know where old claims are.

Ernie Branscomb said...

The only mine that I know of is the Island Mountain Copper mine. There is quite a bit of printed history about it. It was in operation in the early days of the railroad. They mined copper and silver. They got enough silver to pay the overhead and the copper was pure profit. I'm not sure what closed the mine, but they tried to reopen the mine in the 70's. I may not be right, but they operation looked a lot like an investor scam. They made a showing of opening the mine shaft. When they did open the shaft, the water contained inside drained into the main Eel River. The highly copper-polluted green colored water killed some fish. The Ca. Dept. of Fish and Game were on scene, and they demanded that they close the shaft immediately, and never open it again. End of story.

There was some gem quality crystals in the mine. I'm not sure if any of them were sold as part of the operation, but I doubt it.

Ernie Branscomb said...

There is gold, I just researched it on my own blog. click on the following link....

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Two crows said...

Tell me about a gold claim on bear ck east of garberville from 1920. It's a patiented claim.

Ross Sherburn said...

Is this blog alive again?? If so,I'll check in more often!

Unk John said...

@ Ross Sherburn - I think, actually I hope, it has a pulse.

Ross Sherburn said...

Guess we'll see? I wanted to ask Ernie about an airplane................

Joe said...

Hey Ernie. Whussssup?

Joe

Anonymous said...

I don't know whusssup with Ernie... he's still on this side of the grass, so to speak... he seems to have the time to talk on blogs about his sock colors, but he is ignoring us?! He told a story about his 1992 earthquake experience and got a compliment for his story telling skills.... it made me MISS this blog and good ol days' conversations we had here.... sigh...

olmanriver said...

Ernie is quite pre-occupied with dismantling the finest collection of important junk and appliance fixings from his workshop/storage area and historic 'wool-gathering' backroom. (not to be confused with where his wife Janice gathers her wool). Tis another signpost on the end of an era. It is remarkable that under the pressure of moving and general busyness he will take the time to chat with his 'senior moment' friends and help the confused find things they have lost....but that is just what kind of a fella Ernie is.
Charlie2Crows: is this the location of the Bear Crick goldmine? https://thediggings.com/mines/usgs10030551/map I was quite surprised to hear you mention that location as the area is primarily known as part of the coal vein extending up the East Branch and crossed by Bear,Buck and Rancheria creeks. A few weeks ago I did my spring survey of the Southfork riverbed and found three palm sized chunks of the coal near the mouth of the East Branch that this year's highwaters washed down. As well as these East Branch locations, there are two coal outcrops n. of Garberville, and one on Bill Wood's old property. Who knew?
Speaking of the end of an era, with the exception of some erosion abating cloths on the park side of the river, one wouldn't even suspect that there had been a dam there. The river has changed its course, of course, but I miss the good ol' days of the dam and the lake, and the swimming holes below the dam and my otter friends who shared the locale with me. Changes, changes...

Ctwocrows said...

To omr,

two claims current and paid current. 1.8km and 2.3km east of garberville.

Two crows said...

Gold mines with pliovone river rock. Woods property has a magnesium mine also.

Two crows said...

Sorry pliovone river rock

Two crows said...

Pliocine

Anonymous said...

Probably need a Facebook account, you can be moderator with pics old and new, and tales galore! I am married relative of Eva Leota Poe (my husbands grandmother) and William Henry Poe, been at Ancestry for years, love the comments and history. Thank you for so much time and work you have dedicated. I hope to add some interesting items soon.

Anonymous said...

Is Red Mountain "RED",because of the Manzanita brush on it?

Ctwocrows said...

Someone tell me about the Yreka haul road that went throught so him in 1864? Charlie Twocrows.

Twocrows said...

To OMR: In 1970 friends and i rode the north fork of the smith on truck tubes. Onetime it was too rough. We had walk out. There were bears every where. Raining bad. We found some caves. I think bears lived there. When we got back to smith river we asked our tolowa friends. They said never go back it is the home of OHMAH! In 2004 i read story in SF paper about hotshot that found caves in tht area. I think mt. Preston. They never revealed the location. Do you know this story? Twocrows.